AH-SO ON SLEEP AND DREAMS
(Ah-So first greeted two newcomers and the rest of the
sitters and thanked them for coming.)
We have decided tonight to attempt to address ourselves
to the topic which is on your list - that of sleep and
dreams. This topic we are aware, is a very difficult
one. It is one in which there are some difficult
concepts which we may have trouble getting across. We
make every effort to answer and address the topics you
request and so we will attempt this one.
The phenomenon of sleep and dreams has fascinated mankind
from a very early age. There are many theories about
sleep and dreams. Sleep we designate as that period in
which you lose most of your consciousness of the material
world. It is a state in which your consciousness, your
Self, if you wish, is withdrawing from your material
world. This withdrawing has one effect of enabling
various physiological changes to take place in your
physical body. It is a time when much repairing and
replenishing of cells can take place. During your day-
time activities, you will very often burn up cells at a
faster rate than your body replenishes them and during
the period of rest and relaxation while you are asleep,
the repairing process can proceed more easily. When you
are busy with your worldly affairs there is often
tension. You often have some degree of anxiety about the
outcome of what you are doing, or the desire to do
something particularly well, and all this causes some
tension in varying degrees in your muscles. This places
some strain on the cells of those muscles and so the use
of them is increased and there are changes taking place
in the cells.
The sleep period is also a time when
certain deposits can be laid down in the bones, during
those periods of your life when this is appropriate and
this is why young babies sleep so much, with them there
is a large degree of physiological growth taking place.
The elderly, it is often noticed, seem to need less
sleep. But with age there is a wide variety in the
expression of this phenomenon. Some will require more
sleep (than other people) but it seems to be generally so
that a little less sleep is generally needed.
however, towards the very end when the end of your life
is accompanied by sickness or general weakness and
debility. In the case of this so-called slow death, it
is noticed that there are many periods of sleep, and in
this case it is a special kind of sleep. These people
are really taking short journeys over to our side and
then they will return to the material world and they will
do this, on occasion, many times. They are getting a
glimpse of what is on this side, and this will help them
when they finally take the permanent step.
There are many reasons why they will do this. Sometimes
there is a feeling of fear of the final step. Many
people are afraid of the unknown, and our Spirit World
for many people is unknown. And so they will come and
look and then they will go back to the security of the
body they know so well. This period is also often
characterised by them talking to people who it is known
have passed on before. These people are making their
presence known to assure the person and so they can be
close by when the final step comes.
For the majority of people, what is sleep? Obviously
everyone can see it is a withdrawing of the
Where does the consciousness go? There is more than one
answer to this question. At times the consciousness is
merely withdrawing from the body, it settles in the
centre of the brain. Now, it does not need a particular
organ or area of the brain to do this. It just withdraws
there to the lower part of the brain, (he is possibly
referring to the limbic system). This occurs in the
period of the lightest sleep. We believe that it has
been shown that you have various cycles during your
night-time sleep, with some periods being deeper sleep
than others. In the periods of the lighter sleep, the
consciousness has settled in the centre of the brain.
Then at other times, it (the consciousness) is
withdrawing from the body. It may merely stay close by,
it may travel further afield, in what you call, astral
travelling. Everybody will do some astral travelling but
not everyone will remember. Some people can do this
deliberately and consciously, most people do it without
realising, and either do not remember it at all, or
recall their experiences as a dream.
Your need for sleep and dreams varies from age to age as
you progress through your life. It is the means whereby
your spirit can renew and remember its contact with the
Spirit World, this is another reason why babies sleep so
much. They are having to get used to their body, they
are having to get used to the stimuli of your world.
They have to get used to receiving sound through their
ears, sight through their eyes, sensations through their
skin. And they have to get used to the sensations from
their inner organs and the moving of their arms and legs
and other parts of their body. They spend periods where
they are really in the Spirit World and other periods
back in the body and your world. When they receive some
input from the body that says that it needs attention,
for instance hunger, they wake so that they can cry to
receive what they need. And as they adjust to the body,
as the senses are beginning to realise there is more in
your world, so they start to stay awake later and later.
We do not need to go through those processes, we think
you are all familiar with them.
Your consciousness during sleep, whether it is in the
body, just out of the body, or travelling, always
maintains some connection with the body. Many people
report that when astral travelling they can see the
silver cord connecting their spirit body with the
material body. Some people claim that they cannot see
this, it doesn't mean to say that they haven't got it.
Sometimes it will simply be that they have been too busy
to notice. Other times perhaps it is (very) fine and
they have not registered its existence, even though they
may, perhaps, actually look for it.
Mankind has often put forward many theories to account
for dreams. And we have to acknowledge that every theory
is right for some people some of the time. Sometimes you
have the brain cells reactivating a memory of something
that has happened. This is usually of some very
impressive event, and the things that impress themselves
most firmly on the brain cells will be the scary events.
And these are what you call nightmares. Your sub-
conscious mind has been affected by this event, it sets
up a fear and the fear triggers the brain cells that were
operated by this event when it occurred, and so the event
is seen again. Sometimes the fear will be very great, it
may be something of which the person is not consciously
aware. They were frightened, or it is something that the
conscious mind refuses to confront, and represses it.
And in these cases the event will be clothed in symbols.
Something has been triggered and the same thing is being
repressed and so to get around the block, the brain will
use a symbol of some sort in order to discharge and also
in order to repress. There is the contradiction that
causes the need for a symbol.
It is true also that happy events can be dreamed in this
manner. But they are less likely to be remembered on
waking, and I am stressing that 'less likely'. Remember,
as we have often said to you, nothing is absolutely set
in spirit and things are less set in the material world
than you realise. So some people will remember reliving
the happy events, especially something which sub-
consciously you know will be a very significant event in
your life. But the fearful events, the ones you don't
like, are the ones that are most often remembered, very
often the consciousness in its fear will wake up in order
to stop the dream and this means that you will often be
more likely to remember the dream. When there are
periods of sleep between the dream and waking, the
chances of remembering the dream are lessened.
Now, very often your guides and helpers over here, will
give you a dream, maybe a warning dream or a prophetic
dream of some sort, and when this dream is remembered and
it comes true, that person has a stronger link with the
Spirit World. Now, if the person is disturbed by this,
that link may be disconnected, sometimes though, the fear
may actually strengthen the link so making this prophetic
type of dream more likely to occur. But because it has
the fear there, conscious progress in your waking life is
seldom occurring, because the fear of the person will
prevent that person taking steps in which a psychic
message may be brought through.
Other theories of dreams are more physiologically based.
It is the brain discharging itself, clearing its memory
banks, we believe are phrases that have been used. On
occasions this, too, is so. No one theory can account
for all dreams for all people. And so, the random charge
can be set up through the brain cells, and many
impressions from the material world can be jumbled
together and you get these very bizarre dreams.
As the waking period approaches, the consciousness
gradually comes back into the body. A lighter period of
sleep will occur, and then a period of even semi-
consciousness, before you come into full consciousness
and the material world again.
When you are awakened unnaturally, unexpectedly, I am
sure you have all experienced feelings of really have to
force yourself to wake, perhaps coming up from deeper
consciousness. This will often be experienced when you
have used one of your alarm clocks to wake you earlier
than usual, and you can see from that how the senses can
draw the consciousness back. Alarming situations - the
smell of smoke for instance - will trigger vibrations in
the brain that call the consciousness back into the body
to deal with the emergency.
The use of various aids to falling asleep, such as
sleeping tablets, interfere with the processes of falling
asleep and waking, mainly because of their effect on the
brain cells. They are deadening to the brain cells and
so you do not get the variation in the types of sleep
during the night. This, we believe, is quite well-known
in your material world and can lead to sleep problems
when they are discontinued. Because of this, such aids
should only be used in real emergency situations for as
short a period as possible and preferably not every
night. By having breaks in between, the brain cells will
be allowed to behave as normally as possible, the
withdrawing of the consciousness is closely linked with
the body and the body affects the consciousness, just as
the consciousness can also affect the body. Abnormal
activity or abnormal lowering of activity in the body
cells also affects the consciousness. Likewise highly
irrational states affect the brain cells, they also
affect the finer etheric body. And, in some instances,
it even seems that it is the etheric body that is
encouraging some form of emotional excitation because the
person's etheric body likes these vibrations and can
absorb some energy from them. Fortunately such
occurrences are not common.
So you may ask, what do we do is we are having problems
sleeping? First, ascertain the cause of the difficulty.
Is there a physiological reason? Have you consumed
something which will keep you awake? This can vary from
person to person and there are well-known substances in
your world which can cause wakefulness.
Are you excited about something? Excitation can be
pleasant : positive things, pleasure anticipated for the
morrow perhaps. It can be nervousness - apprehension
about the next day. It may be pleasure or anxiety about
something which has already happened. What is it that is
causing the tension in your body? Because it is
basically the tension in your muscles which prevents
sleep. We recommend first trying not to worry about the
sleeplessness. This may not work well the first night.
Usually if you do not allow yourself to get worked up or
excited about it, the next night's sleep will naturally
If it is a more lasting thing, then methods should be
tried in which the body can relax.
We prefer natural methods. Relaxation exercises are
well-known in your society and they should be tried in
the first instance. If necessary you may use natural
aids to sleep, these are less harmful than your medically
prescribed drugs. However, we do understand that people
can get into quite traumatic situations will need
stronger aids to sleep. These may be used if you
remember the stipulations which I mad earlier. But first
of all try the other methods. If necessary turn for help
to people in your world who have some skill and knowledge
and training in such matters. Hypnotherapy may help.
Where the cause is of a psychological nature you may seek
help in that field. We cannot lay down one firm rule, it
is necessary for you to determine for yourself what
caused this (problem) and then you can take the
Now, I am sure that with this topic there is some area
which I have not covered and about which you would like
to ask questions, or may be you require further
clarification. I am quite happy at this point to answer
your further questions.
Guy: What is the state of the spirit in cases where
people spend years in a coma? We had a case just now
where a girl, Karen Quinlan, died after spending 10 years
in a state of coma. Such cases are quite numerous. What
happens to the state of consciousness or spirit in these
Ah-So: These types of coma are caused by some damage
of the brain, whether by a blow, injury, or whether by
some chemical means. The consciousness is drawn suddenly
out of the body. In cases of slight concussion, I
believe you call it, the consciousness may be only - this
is where I have difficulties with concepts. The only
word I can use is 'shaken' into the centre of the brain.
Now, if the centre part of the brain is damaged then the
consciousness leaves the body. It is in a similar state
to the sleep state, but consciousness cannot get back
into the body, or cannot get fully back into the body.
There are parts of the brain which are no longer working
and so you may have partial consciousness. Then the
consciousness will come in as far as it can and withdraw,
much as in the sleep state. It, too, will do some astral
travelling, but it will keep coming back to the body. It
will keep trying to get fully into that body. As long as
the body is alive, the consciousness will have some
contact with it. As long as there is any possibility of
consciousness entering through the brain and hence into
the body, it will attempt to do so.
Now, the guides and helpers of that person will be
around. They will be trying to help that person in the
same way that they would if that person had died
instantly. They will be surrounding the consciousness.
They will be giving it support and encouragement in much
the same way that you in the material world will try to
help and support someone you know is in difficulties. It
is the same type of process. The consciousness - perhaps
I should explain that instead of consciousness we could,
with greater clarity, be saying spirit, but because it is
the body becoming conscious of the world, we are using
that word (consciousness).
The consciousness cannot travel far in the world of
spirit while the body still has some life in it. They
are very exceptional souls who have travelled in the
Spirit World to any great length while the physical body
is still alive. There have been very few people who do
it. And so in the case of these pro-longed comes, the
consciousness cannot progress in the Spirit World. It is
still attached to the body, and will constantly be drawn
back to the body. It will be aware of physical
sensations, something that would cause a conscious person
pain, for instance, will be experienced by it in the same
way. And this too, will be a means of drawing the
consciousness back to the body if it happens to be
travelling somewhere else. And so the prolonged coma
acts as a brake, a limit, on the progression of the soul
and the work that the soul has to do in the Spirit World.
Does that fully cover your question?
Guy: Yes, pretty well. Does it follow then, that it
would be very useful to talk to a person in a coma and
read to it because there is a reasonable chance that the
consciousness will understand?
Ah-So: Yes. Usually the consciousness will receive
sounds, sounds are also one of the ways in which the
brain cells may be re-activated and so this sometimes
serves to rouse the person from the coma. If you know
someone in this state, if you are associated with someone
like this, talk to them, read to them, play music to
them, particularly the music which they like. This often
has served to rouse the coma patient. If you can talk or
read about spiritual things to the person in the coma,
you can be helping the soul to make as much progress as
it is able to. You can be preparing it for the final
step over, if the coma is to lead to a final death, as
you see it.
Jim: My dreams have been becoming more and more logical,
particularly over the last 18 months. They seem to have
a beginning and an end, and sometimes there is a story in
it. There are still some break ups, but the stories make
sense. I remember some but not others, or the next day I
do not remember any of them. How do you bring them
through to the consciousness and hold them there? Some
of them have been messages I have got to give.
Ah-So: Do you make a practice of writing down dreams
when you awake?
Jim: No, never.
Ah-So: This is one method which many people have found
improves their re-call. It has some thing to do with
impressing the memory on the more accessible parts of the
brain cells, the more accessible brain cells. The
consciousness is somehow, instructing itself to remember,
and when you have the idea that in the morning 'I must
write it down', the consciousness is reminding itself to
Many dreams, of course, I hope you realise, will not
have significance, these are the ones which it is useful
for you to forget. You are more likely also to forget
the dreams which would arise from astral travelling,
because they are not actually taking place in the brain
cells, it is something which is happening to your
consciousness. And so the consciousness has to hold on
to its memory when it returns, so that they get locked in
the brain cells and can be accessed in conscious life.
The development of logicality in your dreams suggests
that you are getting more in contact with your Self. You
are getting more control over what you do in the sleep
state. Are you aware of astral travelling?
Jim: I've never been aware of it.
Ah-So: You cannot remember it.
Jim: I dream in 3D and full colour and the people are
Ah-so: That is the first step. When you say real
people, do you mean people you know in the material
Jim: Some of them, and some of them are total strangers.
Ah-So: You are gaining - because you are new to the
circle we have some difficulty with the contacts - you
are gaining a greater confidence and maturity in spirit
and you are getting this greater control. As you say
some of them could be useful messages, signifies your
clairvoyance strengthening. We believe you have had
conscious clairvoyant flashes at least, and it is a sign
that steady progress has been made. A steady dream life
and logicality, pleasurable dreams, indicate a settled
life, not necessarily settled as meaning living in one
spot, but you have steadiness in what you are doing. You
have reached the point in which your development is
beginning to reach fruition, do not worry about it. Do
not try to force the pace, simply co-operate with it.
Garry: At what stage does spirit enter a human foetus?
And at what stage does that spirit carry on living if
that foetus dies before birth or shortly after. I have
been told that they live on and grow up on the other
Ah-So: Yes. The incoming soul is usually hovering
around the mother. It can enter the foetus and withdraw
again. The time at which it permanently enters can vary,
it is no later than the beginning of the birth process.
There are instances when a soul, for some reason, desires
to enter the body early and it is seldom that the
entering occurs before the quickening - the permanent
entering we should say. Usually by the time that the
foetus is beginning to look like a human, temporary
entering can take place. When a baby dies before birth
or shortly after, it is usually because the soul, the
spirit, has decided that something is not right. It may
be simply that the spirit has decided or feels that it
has had enough experience of the material world, and
wishes to go into its spiritual development. Sometimes
the death before birth is occasioned because of some
physical event, this may be used simply as an excuse for
the incoming soul to depart. Sometimes the incoming soul
may simply decide to alter the life's plan and may be the
body in some respect, does not, or could not for some
reason, fulfil some aspect of that changed plan, and so
the soul will withdraw. It very seldom happens that a
change of incoming souls occurs. If it does it, occurs
very early before many temporary entries have occurred.
Usually the withdrawing of the soul, the spirit, simply
causes the foetus to die, because the life force is
withdrawn from it. Even a temporary withdrawal of the
life-force will cause the death of the foetus. This, of
course, has to be a complete withdrawal of the life
force. The soul will always be around or be close to the
mother, and the permanent withdrawal of the life-force
occurs if the soul withdraws completely from the mother's
aura. Where the soul withdraws because of a change of
life-plan, naturally that soul will simply move to
another foetus. Where the soul has decided to withdraw
from the material world, it will do its growing, growth
and development in the Spirit World, up to the point at
which the etheric body is the one that it desires to
have. So the soul may grow to, perhaps five years, it
may decide to grow to 15 20, or whatever age it desires.
Having been attached to a developing foetus it will help
the etheric body and will inhabit it as you do when you
come over here from a normal death. As you know, in time
that body will dissolve, the merging of that soul with
others will begin to take place. This is a gradual
Jim: The merging of the souls is more or less what I
understand as a spiritualising of the etheric body.
Ah-So: You may use that term. It is the body becoming
finer and less defined. It loses its human
characteristics. Perhaps you may think of it as a
formless light, to you, but not to us.
Deirdre: When you say merging, does that mean losing our
Ah-So: This merging takes place in what you would
term, the higher levels of the Spirit World and the
identity isn't so much lost as broadened and expanded,
and eventually the merging of souls with other souls,
merges and merges, until eventually you merge back with
Wendy: When you are dreaming is that the time your
guides can talk to you?
Ah-So: Yes, this can happen. Not necessarily with
everyone, and naturally, not necessarily every time. But
it is one way in which your guides can speak to you,
especially if the link isn't very strong yet and the
person is not receptive to the input from their guides.
Deirdre: What can you do to strengthen those links?
Ah-So: Generally, becoming interested in the psychic
area. There are many paths to follow and it is necessary
to select the correct one for you. You may find it
necessary to experiment and investigate different ways.
Usually this is a prompting from your guides, but you are
not aware of it and you are still able to shut it off and
to say, 'No'.
I think, if you will excuse me, we would like to withdraw
at this time. We make our usual invitation to you to, if
you have a query during your supper, please ask and we
will do our best to impress our answer on this medium. I
thank you all for your attention.
(This talk had the unusual feature of having some
grammatical errors, these have been corrected in the
text. The words in brackets have been added in an
attempt to clarify the statement being made.)
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