QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS
1st February, 1990
This entity did not identify itself to us and I had the impression that
the answers were provided by my guides as a group. There were changes
in the delivery; the speed of speaking changed considerably, varying
from very rapid to very slow and in between speeds; the loudness also
varied from very quiet to normal volume but not to shouting level.
Afterwards the sitters reported feeling fluctuations in the energy
level, and some said that the temperature had also varied. For my own
part, I felt that at times I was in a deeper control state than at
others. During meditation before the control had taken over, I had
felt as though someone had moved to behind my chair, and there was a
sort of 'pressure' in the air in front of me. I also felt a strong
tingling sensation in my face, especially around my mouth. For me this
is a sign of an entity taking control.
We are going to attempt this evening to answer some questions which our
honoured helper (my husband, Guy) has given us.
Guy: Are communications which come through a medium always spirit
communications? Sometimes they probably are not - they could be
manufactured by the medium's own subconsciousness. Sometimes they
could be influenced by something like the Jungian sub-consciousness, if
such a thing exists, to which a medium could be tuned in. How and if,
we can tell the difference, what is and what is not a genuine spirit
message. Let's start firstly: is there such a thing as Jungian
Answer: The thoughts that you put out set up the vibration around the
world - it is not really the atmosphere, let's call it a spirit
atmosphere round the world - and your thoughts set up vibrations in
THAT. That holds thought forms. Beyond this you have a space which -
it gradually weakens further from the earth - for thought transmission.
The distance from the earth that your thoughts travel depends on the
strength of the thought, whether you are DELIBERATELY trying to send it
a long distance or not. You have many thoughts which will just affect
the immediate surroundings. Thoughts which are sent deliberately with
some intent or with emotional strength will travel further. The
distance also depends on how far away the receiver is. Of course the
majority of your thoughts are not being sent to a receiver. So, if you
have someone in one of your spaceships it is possible for a very strong
person to send thoughts to somebody on that space ship, if it is sent
with enough intent and with inner imagery.
Now, if a lot of people have the same thought, you will constantly
have that vibration in this atmosphere around your world, and so other
people will pick it up and they can add strength to it. And so,
eventually, it can be materialised in your world. This is one reason
why? we do not stress these predictions of doomsday, of great
catastrophes, and the rest of it, because if people thing there is
going to be a catastrophe and enough people think it, they will become
afraid and there is emotion attached to it, and there will be one. If
the people hadn't been thinking of it in the first place it may not
have happened. Or if it had, it would have been a small local effect.
Because there are things going on in your world that are in the nature
of the world, for instance, the way earthquakes occur, the way you have
your storms, there will always be those. But if you are feeding
thoughts of catastrophes then they will become very much worse. And
the more you look for all these signs of catastrophes the more you will
see, the greater importance you will attach to them, and so they will
build up and build up. Watch what thoughts you are projecting.
Now, how do you know that what you see is the same as what someone
Pat: We tested it out on one occasion with the perception of a
coloured blouse that a person was wearing and out of six to eight
people we were all seeing something different.
Entity: Exactly. And how do you know that what you call 'blue' is the
same what another person calls 'blue'? You see a distant scene, how
do you know that other people see the same scene that you are seeing?
So, is there a collective unconscious? You have these thoughts
that I have just been describing, that are being fed by you, giving
them strength, but you also think counter-thoughts and, naturally, the
stronger you send them the more you will be able to counteract the
There is a certain amount of agreement of what is in your world.
That is why you are here, and that is why a certain amount of the
Godness has been solidified into the world for you all to feel. When
enough people think of something, it will be there.
And certain thoughts can last in your atmosphere for a very long
time, if they are being fed, if they are being repeated. So there is
your collective unconscious. It can also be your collective conscious!
And this is one of the things which we are trying to spread and teach
through people like yourselves.
Does that satisfy your question?
Guy: Yes. You have answered the first part of it all right. They are
ALL related actually. I have often sat and wondered in the church
when the clairvoyant gives the messages: that he or she sees this, or,
say, Aunt Mary brings you a red rose, or something like that happens,
or there is some journey to come, or some kind of thing is going to
happen. And I often wonder, is the clairvoyant getting these ideas
from the actual departed spirit who is putting these things through the
medium, or is the medium tuning into the subconsciousness of the person
receiving this image and picking things out from the memory of that
person, which may, or may not, have entered the collective kind of
psychic memory you just talked about. In other words, how can we tell
what is picked out from the collective or individual sub-consciousness,
and what is a true actual spirit message? Can we tell the difference?
Answer: Some mediums do one thing, some do another, and some do both.
Some do one at one time and some do one at another. Spirits do come
and communicate directly with your medium. (Sigh) It is difficult to
explain. The spirit will often give a piece of information to the
medium who can link it with the person, and both approaches are working
- the medium is both picking up something from the person's
sub-conscious and the spirit can also elaborate on that. It is rare
for a medium to ONLY pick up something from the subconscious. There is
usually the spirit acting as a catalyst to start the train of thought.
Now, it is usually when the person does not recognise the entity being
given, or does not remember a situation or event. Then the medium will
pick up from the thoughts that are in the sub-conscious to try to find
something to trigger the conscious memory. On other occasions it is
purely or entirely from the spirit.
How can you tell the difference? For the person receiving the
message the proof will usually come in the accuracy of any prediction.
The ones that come from spirit will be correct. Now, sometimes, of
course, the medium will be picking a trend, the medium may pick up a
situation where there is a decision to be made, and they may be able to
pick the unconscious desire of the person. The person faced with two
choices will very often, deep down, have an unconscious desire to go
one way or the other, and so the medium may bring that to the fore. In
those circumstances we cannot guarantee the accuracy or the
desirability of the action. But there is always, at least some spirit
contribution to these messages.
Guy: Following one step further, I have had long discussions with the
medium about it, take the case of multiple personalities, well-known in
psychology these days. One theory would be that they are different
spirits possessing or manifesting through that person. Another, and
probably more likely explanation, is that the individual somehow
manufactures theses various aspects of personality out of his own
psyche. Again, where are we? Are both answers correct, and can we
know the difference?
Answer: In the majority of cases it is spirits. The person has a weak
aura which allows the spirits to work through a person in the world.
Possession is an incorrect word. Another spirit cannot possess your
own body, but they can come into your own aura to influence your
behaviour. Usually it is someone who has allowed this to happen. They
may feel the presence of a spirit and be willing to allow that spirit
to come into their aura and allow them to influence them.
On rare occasions the person is someone who has been frustrated in
some way, and then it is a sub-conscious up-surging of the spirit
forcing into the conscious - forcing a kind of extreme version of how
the person would like to behave. That is the situation that is usually
caused by certain conditions - material conditions - in the material
world. Usually the split personality is spirit influenced.
Guy: Last question in the series. We were discussing the specific
case of a book written by a medium, Jane Roberts, which recalls the
world view of William James. Now, William James was a famous
philosopher-psychologist in America who lived early this century, and
was very well-known. And this medium claimed she was contacting the
psychic world, the thought world, of William James. She wrote a book
about what she found there. Now she was most insistent that she did
not contact the spirit of William James, in other words, the thoughts
and feelings and ideas of this departed philosopher somehow hold
together and keep their energy to exist in the psychic environment, and
she claims she was able to tap into it and explore what is in it. But
somehow this mental world of that man exists separately from the spirit
of that man. Would you like to comment on that?
Answer: It is the thoughts and memories still lingering in the world
atmosphere. He was a well-known man who is still remembered today, and
so energy is being fed into his thoughts and memories in the spirit
The spirit of the person concerned would not be very far away,
insofar as we must pre-suppose distance in the spirit world. He is
still being held around the world by these memories of him, by the
remembrance of him. As we have explained on several occasions, you
move away from the world when there is no-one left to remember you, or
when there is no-one left in the material world about whom you are
concerned. There are still people who remember him, and he still has
some interest in the movement he helped to start. And so he was not
Guy: So achieving fame and memory on earth may not be a good thing! I
think I have completed my questions, I have hogged the floor tonight.
Time for others. Thank you.
Jackie: Thinking about the way William James left his thoughts for
people to be able to pick up, on a lesser degree, does this happen in
regard to buildings, where people have lived in buildings? Speaking
personally, I can walk into a building and feel the atmosphere. Is it
the vibrations, the thought vibrations, of people who have lived there
previously and have passed on?
Answer: Yes, people's thoughts affect the vibrations of the building,
and as other people respond to those vibrations so they will be
maintained or changed.
Jackie: The interaction of people will either maintain or change it?
Answer: Yes. This is why it is very important for those of you who
have some understanding and knowledge of these matters to be careful
what you are thinking. Your thought vibrations will be very much
stronger than those of people without this knowledge.
If you ever find that you are thinking some sort of negative
thought, always immediately replace it with a positive thought about
the person or situation that you were thinking.
Guy: The events that go on in our world, there is a tremendous turmoil
going on in the Soviet Union and eastern bloc countries. There are
currents and counter-currents, thoughts and ideas. And nobody on earth
knows what will finally happen there. So it would seem that whatever
the dominant psychic current turns out to be will determine what the
physical reality will be. People are now throwing up all their
thoughts and emotions and whatever turns out to be the dominant way
Answer: Yes. This is why we ask you to send golden light and thoughts
of peace and calm to those areas of the world.
Norman: Is this our reaction to events in that part of the world?
Answer: To some degree, too. Much of it is a simple building up of a
desire for change amongst the people there. Change, any change, at any
Norman: The price is freedom. I have been focussing my thoughts on
those people for a long time
Answer: The desire for freedom. But what IS freedom?
Norman: Freedom from oppression.
Guy: Freedom from hunger.
Norman: Freedom to express yourself. Is there a possibility that
individuals who concentrate on higher thought forms will attract to
themselves other thought forms in the same vein?
Answer: I take it you mean you wish to influence events in a positive
Norman: That's one part of it, yes.
Answer: The best way is, as we said, send them golden light. Picture
very strongly reason and sense prevailing. You are putting those
vibrations into their atmosphere. The workers from spirit can use
these vibrations in their efforts too - there are many hot-heads here
in spirit who are just the same as the hot-heads in your world. They
have not been over here long enough to learn. Some came over in
situations of great trauma and unhappiness, and they have not yet
worked that out. And so they, too, are joining in this movement for
freedom. If you send your thoughts, your pictures - pictures are
better than words - send your pictures, peace and calmness, and
especially send the golden light.
Ken: I have a query about mediums passing messages on. They tend,
usually, to be good messages. Do mediums filter out the bad things
from messages that they receive and pass on?
Answer: Mediums usually will not pass on a message of a coming death.
If there is a dying message it will usually be given as a warning, a
general one. Such as: 'Check the brakes on your car' or 'be careful
when you are going down a flight of stairs' or something like, this
because mediums pick up trends, and trends can change. Also, if we
were to say that there is a death coming the person receiving the
message will be severely disturbed by it. Their aural vibrations could
be disturbed and so they would be in situations where they cannot help.
If it is another person who is going to die, they will - er - can you
understand what I mean? They will be disturbed, they will not be able
to help the other person. And, naturally, if it is their own death it
will be even more disturbing.
Many people come into the church seeking help and comfort and this
is what we, in particular, seek to give in that setting. So coming
difficulties and troubles are usually hinted at, and perhaps some word
of advice given. But for these reasons we consider it better not to
say outright, particularly if it is the person's death. Naturally, if
we think that there is an illness coming we may suggest ways to sway
the illness away, or at least to make it less severe, or something like
that. But we do NOT say outright that there is a death coming.
We wish to encourage people. It is better for them to pass in an
attitude of hope than to pass with a feeling of despair, which is what
may happen if they were told they would shortly die.
Guy: Suppose that somebody is shortly going to die. Now, I am going
to jump into deep water here, I am going to jump into physics which you
may or may not know about - the medium knows a little bit. I am going
to jump into the theory of relativity a little bit. According to the
theory of relativity, if a signal can travel faster than light which,
in our physical world is held to be impossible, but possibly the
thought could travel or move faster than light, then according to
relativity, a future event could be given backwards in time. In other
words, the future event already exists on the world line, the
Einstein-Minkowski world line as it is called, and provided an
instantaneous signal is possible, then, theoretically, backward
movement in time is possible. In other words, I could know what is
going to happen tomorrow, and tell you today quite legitimately,
according to our physics. Provided my thought could travel faster than
light. Is that the way Spirit sees a future event? Or it just picks
up trends and probabilities?
Answer: Spirit easily picks up trends, except for those things which
were laid down at birth. As you recall, we have explained that at
birth a person has a broad, general outline of their life. Much of
that outline can be changed depending on that person's behaviour in
certain situations. You always have the choice of how to behave in a
certain situation. But there are some events, the main, major events,
which cannot be changed.
Pat: Can these major events, perhaps have a potential for different
individuals interacting at that time. Perhaps a scenario in general
terms could take place but in a different setting and with different
individuals. Is that clear?
Answer: And with different outcomes.
Norman: But we have a choice of action?
Guy: Somebody put this kind of picture up about life and future
events, future events in a sense already existing in this world-line
theory: Imagine a man walking along a picket fence at night, with a
small torch. He can light up two or three palings at a time, and that
is the present, he sees the present and experiences the present. As he
walks along the fence he lights up different palings, and maybe there
are different kinds of colours and different kinds of palings, and so
he moves on. But the fence, in a sense, already is there, although he
doesn't know it. Now, according to what is being said now, I would see
it this way, that the main posts in the fence are already set, that's
according to the life plan - and it is a pretty hard job to uproot a
post. But we, sort of, make these palings as we go along, and we light
them up with our little torch-light or spotlight, and that is our
present. Would that be a fair description?
Answer: And if you happen to lift the torch-light you can see ahead.
Guy: But the palings are already there? You sort of feel what's
Answer: The person on the fence also has the option of jumping down on
one side or the other and following along the path. No doubt at times
you will also come to a fence crossing this fence, and you have the
choice of either continuing on, or of going to the left or right.
Jackie: So its always a matter of choice?
Answer: You always have the choice in all situations, the choice of how
you behave, and how you behave in that situation influences future
situations. So you may, at birth, have agreed to have certain
situations, and you will be put in those situations, but you can
influence the outcomes of them. And the less important situations of
your life you can change.
Guy: It is both predestination and free will?
Answer: It is a combination of both.
Pat: Can we change the past?
Jackie: If we come into the world with a plan, is there a part of us
that is unconscious, but can also work with our guides as being very
much that part of us that is controlling our own path, even though we
are not aware of it?
Answer: Yes. You have heard of the sub-conscious mind, that is usually
pictured as a place where past memories are put. They may not be
accessible to the conscious mind, at least no easily. It is also
pictured as that place where we have the 'darker side' of human nature.
I could even term it the 'animal side' of human nature. But you also
have the super-conscious mind, and THAT is in touch with spirit. Now,
the three are not separate, it is sort of a blending and the idea of
walking along a path with a torch is, perhaps, a good one. The path is
your life and you can see what is immediately in front of your feet.
You can turn the torch and shine it backwards and remember things. You
can lift it and see other things. But it is just one. All analogies
are imperfect. It is like a slot, you can move it up and down or focus
on the present. You can focus in the past, the lower part, or you can
focus to the higher part, contact with spirit.
Norman: What are clairvoyants reading then? We are really going back
to the question, is the clairvoyant reading the individual's mind or
getting information from spirit?
Answer: They will pick up the trend. There is usually a spirit contact
and some of the information will come from the spirit. They will
contact the person's sub-conscious if they need some elaboration to
help the person to remember.
Guy: This medium has often given the analogy of the umbelliferous
flower, or the tree - you know what I mean, branching back to thicker
and thicker branches and stems and all that. When a clairvoyant
message is given, does the medium's part higher self, which goes back
higher into the tree, to a larger branch, communicate or get into the
deeper part of the other person's - in other words do the branches
merge at the level where these messages are given? The thicker branch
in the tree is aware further along the picket fence what is going to be
happening. In other words, because it is already visible to him there,
and the message is obtained that way, the two higher selves
communicating with each other. Rather than having a separate spirit
brought into the picture.
Answer: It depends how far apart, shall we call them 'the twiglets',
are for two people to communicate on that scale. It is sometimes not
until the very highest branch that the connection is made, and so there
is usually the third party needed. It is only when two people are very
close, the medium and the person who is receiving the message, that the
communication can take place at a higher level up the branch. If it
has to go back too far to the thickest branches it is too far removed
from the material world.
Norman: Would it make any difference if we said that the medium and the
individual make contact by a merging of energies?
Answer: What do you mean by energies?
Norman: All life is energy in some form or other. Since we live on
this particular earth plane we are aware of the energies of, shall we
say, nationalistic types of energies and thought forms. We, in this
room, are conscious of each other's energies, because we are merging
with them all the time. Does the same thing happen between the medium
and the person receiving the message and information? Is it a merging
of energies, the touching of energies?
Answer: There has to be some touching of the auras or energies in order
for the spirit contact to be made. But between people who are not
close the information is passed through a third party in spirit. The
touching of energy usually helps with healing and health conditions.
Not usually of the predictive type of message or the proof of survival
Norman: What prompted that was that there have been some recorded
instances of instant thought communications. The other idea that
prompted that question was the fact that on occasions Sri Satya Sai
Baba was officially recorded as being in four places at one given time.
Which might partially answer the previous question.
Answer: He can project a thought-form.
Guy: I have a feeling we have come to an end.
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