LEVELS OF WORLDS
(Note dictated after a rescue. This is information given by impressions
when I was not in trance.)
You asked about the world and how we all agree on
what's there. Well, what Ah-So was saying was:
They've told you several times about the
umbelliferous flower, how you have the little flowers there. You have
several joining onto a stem and you have several of those (stems)
joining. They said that why you all agree on roughly what is there, is
that, at a higher level - about three levels up - that branch there
has, sort of decided what is going to be here and then that would be
the overall universe type of thing. So you see the stars, you have the
sun and the earth, asteroids and all that sort of thing. Then there's
another level which sort of, if you like, designs the world and then
you get your level where you decide your lives. There's a level in
between which is governing more the actions of men and nations, and
then you've got your level which is concerned with your own life. And
that's why there is general agreement as to what is there although
people still have some differences of interpretation.
Gina: That means there's four levels?
Valerie: That is not the sum total. That's
concerned with the material universe and world. You have still got
others above it. They are very weary of using the word 'level' because
really there is only the one, there is just sort, of graduations down.
They are wary too, of giving a set number because it's going to give
you a set concept when you go on to the other side and they don't want
you to have a set concept.
Guy: There's no distinct limit between
levels either? They all
Valerie: That's right.
Garry: Where does the distinction lie between the creator and the
created in terms of consciousness. We create the image of our
environment, by consensus or belief. But what about animals? Do dogs
participate in the creation or are they created?
Valerie: Put it on the list (topics for talks). I think there is a
Garry: There must be a cut-off between the created and the creator.
Valerie: Why? There is something that looks after the animals but I
can't quite get it.
Garry: If there isn't a cut-off, that means there isn't a cut-off
anywhere, between the stone, the plant. There's the atoms creating us
and the whole thing back that way. If there is a cut-off there, our
illusion being projected on a back-drop or something, then there's a
line drawn between everything, there's consciousness.
Valerie: They say you change your atoms every seven years and you
can have that as part of your atoms today and it might be part of that
chair tomorrow. I don't know how true that is. You get some atoms
entering the water and some leaving it, and there's a balance created
there. Vapour pressure is it? It might be stretching it a little bit
with wood, but it must happen sometime in a million years.
Gina: That's stretching it a bit, to have an interchange between
living and inanimate.
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